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Post by Theo Bowre on Aug 4, 2011 18:22:19 GMT -5
Sorry about that, mates. I may have misinterpreted. I placed that thought in Theo's head (it's not something that has to happen) because he understood Tynan to be with Curse when they noticed Jack's odd behaviour. He's also thinking that Alex may be cognizant of Curse's suspicions, especially since he was with Theo when Jack had his little episode (Travert gave Alex a note too, although Theo didn't see that part). Theo realizes he's not the only one seeing Jack out of sorts and in government, when someone starts to act a bit loopy, it's time to censure that person, heaven forbid they bring the entire cabinet down. There may be additional political pressure from the Wizengamot, of which Black Watch Siara is a part. The Wizengamot is not the political body but linked through the judicial system. In terms of power, there are some high-rollers in that crowd. I don't think it's entirely out-of-the-blue for Theo to think Jack's position is in jeopardy or that people in the Ministry would see Jack as a problem. I can remove the coup reference if you'd rather, but having people like Tynan or Alex suspect Jack may be a good way to bring them in to the story. Overall, the greatest threat comes from the BW and Curse.
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Post by Curse Kameren on Aug 4, 2011 18:50:49 GMT -5
I like the way it's working out, Theo. don't worry about it, I think that different perspective and confusion sort of makes the plot a lot deeper. What we need to do to get everyone involved in this plot is get some spinoff plots and sub-plots involved in it. Anyone have ideas? Cain & Echo, what happened to your stuff you were going to do?
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Post by Ralin O'Faerlun on Aug 4, 2011 23:13:44 GMT -5
I agree! The way I saw it was the same way, especially because Theo's concerned for Jack and his kids if the BW is swayed politically and they go after Jack, thinking he's a traitor, or compromised, or somesuch like that. So putting himself as a line of defense between the BW, ministry members, etc and Jack seems only natural to Theo's character. At least that's how I saw it. So I say go with it, this adds even more depth to the plot! All I can say is they both need hugs. And Mosrael needs a swift kick in the...butt.
I can't recall the idea for Cain and Echo, but I would like to bring her into it. Maybe Tynan can help with damage control, if perhaps Theo tries to ask him for help protecting Jack from the main body of ministry law enforcement? Not sure, but he's open to wherever he'd fit best. I think Siara, if she knew Theo's concerns for Jack, would do all she could to help him, understanding the nature of that type of curse and being very much a fighter from the heart. That's one avenue to pursue, if you'd like.
Just tossing thoughts out there! This is a blast, you are all awesome writers!
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Post by Theo Bowre on Aug 4, 2011 23:28:40 GMT -5
Thanks, Ralin. I don't want the thread to become Theo-centric because it's not about him but rather about Jack and Mosrael and those who get in the way/take the risks to address this new nemesis. There are a tonne of sub-plots that make this whole mammoth plot wicked and that way everyone gets involved. The only request I have in terms of Theo is that I want him to be faulted and to make decisions based on desperation. He's not going to his friends or accepting poor yous. His mind is strictly on Jack at the moment. He might even turn a wand on you if necessary.
PS: Mos and Darksmer...I so didn't spell that right...potential there?
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Post by Curse Kameren on Aug 5, 2011 0:07:28 GMT -5
Hmm, while Daksmer is mostly a creation of Ralin's & I'll leave it up to him, I'd think a man so repulsed by dark demon magic wouldn't be dabbling in dark magic himself. Not every arse is a dark wizard, some people are just arses.
However if we do need an arse who is a Dark Wizard, perhaps we could bring back good ol' Argus Crabbe? He's a Senior Auror, if Nuri or Ralin remembers correctly, and he was sort of the Salt to Curse's Harkness during while he was possessed by Mosrael. We can bring Crabbe back as an active NPC if we're looking for another working baddie, and he might cause upset with Tynan, Reece and possibly Arianna or Alex.
Here's a question for Siara and the students involved in this plot: A Hogwarts student has been kidnapped. How does that affect the school emotionally? I'm sure Max was well-known around the school from last year's antics. Also, Emery's gone missing. This disappearing of students would probably raise a bit of an unrest in the population. What becomes of that?
Perhaps Siara feels compelled to mediate this tension between Theo and Curse once she gets wind of Theo's resignation and the conversation that may have sparked it. If Curse finds out that Theo had something to do with Max getting put in harm's way, that could indeed be an interesting rp.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe one of the 'Ministry Members' Theo mentions to Jack is Tynan, because Curse mentions him in Old Scars, correct? That was what I was pulling from what Theo was saying. Either way, if Tynan sides with Harkness and the Kamerens and Reece Elswyth are telling them Harkness is working for the Dark Lady, That might cause a rift in the auror department that would put Tynan in a difficult position. Though the aurors are loyal to the Ministry by law, they've known the Kameren brothers and Reece better than Tynan and have known them longer, and are aware of the power the Dark Lady has had before. If the aurors started choosing sides, that upset could spark more plot-points for our Ministry site members to build on.
I was under the impression that Echo and Cain were going to work together to try to solve Echo's curse/Cain's possession. That's up to you guys, though, so don't mind me.
Also, where do Reckony, Maebh, and Conan fit into this? How does Hogsmeade in general fit into this? Or Godric's Hollow and the Fletcher family, for that matter?
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Post by Elle Callahan on Aug 5, 2011 17:24:25 GMT -5
Hmmm...Theo, we once talked about having Maebh and her clan being rather close with the harkness' them all being in the business of helping orphans/runaways/kids in general. In my mind, Theo and Maebh were childhood friends of sorts who've always had this sort of long distance, see you when I see you friendship that was often conducted through the post...that being said, Maebh will be torn between the Black Watch (reckony) and Theo/Jack. She probably doesn't know Jack very well but her family probably does and she has heard of him. Maebh would probably want to try and mend the rift between Reck and Theo which could cause tension...also we could probably start on the plot where Reckony finds out Maebh is actually an undercover hitwizard...maybe Theo discovers that...perhaps Jack summons her to do a task and Theo is there and recognizes Maebh? hehehe they might even duel, if Theo believes that Maebh is there under Reck's orders... With the ministry split...MAebh might actually be on Jack's side, which could be interesting due to her roll with the black watch. She's the type of person who believes the best of everyone.
Eden's going to be really upset that not only her brother is missing but Max has been taken. He's her best (actually her only non family/adult friend...). She'll also be upset that she hadn't seen it coming...Eden's probably going to be very emotional, have a short temper and cause more trouble. She might even try to start her own search party...asking other students to join her...Eden might even try to convince the school that attacks will only grow worse and it is up to the students to be villgiant, keep tabs on friends, never go out alone, don't talk to strangers even if they seem to be young students etc...
Her ralin, my newest character Gen might know Rianna, or at least befriend her at the ball. Gen's a pretty socialite who had political parents. She isn't necessarily evil but can be duped rather easily until she's too far in to escape...
Well I'm sure Godrick's Hallow will be reeling over the fact that two young boys have eithr gone missing or kidnapped in a short span of time. Mistrust in the ministry etc. The Eden's grandparents are a father powerful old blood family (Eden/Emery live with their maternal grandparents the Abbots) so they would also cause a ruckus, perhaps even try to discredit the ministry as a whole and not just the minister.
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Post by Nuriko Elsywth on Aug 5, 2011 17:30:37 GMT -5
Jack doesn't know she's an undercover hitwizard, and there would be no reason for the Minister to reach over the head of the Head of Magical Law Enforcement to do such a thing.
Other than that, your post provides plenty of fun ideas that I can't wait to see played out!
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Post by Ava Coroleon on Aug 5, 2011 17:35:58 GMT -5
Sorry--I was on vacation and am just reading this. Anyway, I think it would be really awesome for Ava to also be looking out for Max and Hogwarts. I'm sure she would know Curse from Hogwarts because she's quite friendly. Anyway, if she's welcome into that plot--should she join in on the thread that's just starting about it?
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Post by Ava Coroleon on Aug 5, 2011 18:46:01 GMT -5
Scratch my last post. Ralin and I were PMing and though that Ava would be another person to protect Max at Hogwarts, but was late when the attack occured. Therefore, she was left outside unconcious and wakes up when the BW gets there/ helps stabilize Ralin. Afterwards, she helps the BW organize search parties & co. for Max. Thoughts?
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Post by Ralin O'Faerlun on Aug 5, 2011 18:58:11 GMT -5
Wow! So much plotting, I don't know where to start! Well, from the top:
--Theo, love the direction you're going with Theo's actions, it's very powerful and can't wait to see where it goes!
--Daksmer is indeed very against dark magic, however...Ranna could manipulate him within the Ministry to consider making a move against Jack, or maybe he could be part of the whole idea of a split between the aurors/law enforcement, maybe as Tynan's opponent. Honestly, Daksmer is out there for all of us to use, I was thinking of putting him up for adoption, or just writing a quick NPC profile, so whomever has ideas for him, feel free!
--As for Siara and Hogwarts, that's an excellent point. Her first year at school hasn't even begun yet, and already a threat is rising. She would respond by increasing security, asking for defense from the Aurors possibly, or those in the Black Watch to help too. She's going to do all she can to keep the school open and safe. But she'll also be in 'mother bear' mode, and try to figure out what she can do proactively to help in this fight. I think her maybe trying to help mediate things between Theo and Curse would be a way to go, if that's the direction that Curse and Theo want to go for your characters?
--I have a feeling a lot is going to be directed at Jack, both a demand for the Ministry to take action against this rising threat, and also more internally, the tension of suspicion like with Theo and Curse and such. I think having a rift forming in the Ministry, maybe with Tynan involved - he's loyal to his duty, but that extends beyond just obeying the Ministry, he takes his duty very seriously and will step outside the law to defend what his heart tells him is just, if needed. Daksmer would be just the opposite.
--Maybe Ranna and Gem can meet, perhaps she's familiar with Ranna and there could be a potential for Ranna to try and get her on her side in a political sense. I'm totally open with Mosrael!
--If Eden is going to try and help out, maybe Siara can be involved somehow, since we did have that interaction when Eden was sleepwalking?
Phew, this is fun! Can't wait to RP more!
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Post by Eden Fletcher on Aug 5, 2011 19:11:34 GMT -5
Curse...Ralin and I were considering the idea that Morsel has her little tin minion stalk Elle because she knows something about Daniel, ie maybe where he was a few years ago. The idea is that Elle could have run into a wounded/possessed Daniel while she was searching for medical herbs/flowers. Botany is one of her hobbies. Anyways she finds danile, helps heal him and give him a fresh start...he gives her something, she wears/uses it Rianna sees and then starts having Elle followed...Scarlet can still stalk Elle, or even just be out looking for a healer for Emery one day, spot Elle, the first seemingly easy healer to grab, and tries to take her. Battle ensues, maybe even the duel you and Ralin were talking about....
Alex who isn't very far away, stumbles upon Elle caught in the middle of a fight and takes her away....or something. Kidnapping adverted...for now?
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Post by Max Kameren on Aug 9, 2011 12:55:04 GMT -5
-Theo, you're brilliant. That is all.
-With the Ranna controlling Daksmer thing... No offense, but having Mosrael taking control of yet another person cheapens the condition she puts them under. Isn't this supposed to be complex, powerful magic? Even for a witch as powerful as Mosrael I think using 'she put them under control' is a bit of a cop-out. If we need more NPC Death Eaters, we'll invent more NPC death eaters.
-nevermind Scarlet in the stalking/attack plot with Elle and Alex. I just volunteered her so you guys would have someone to rp with, if it works better with Krellith, then go that route. I don't need to be involved. So no Scarlet there.
-Hey Ralin, would it be better to switch out the NPC you're using in the kidnapping thread and have Ava be the second babysitter? I know you wanted an NPC to die for dramatic effect, but she can come in later & be killed if for not we can get Ava involved and in the plot. What do you guys think of that?
-Once Max gets kidnapped, Curse is going to turn very dangerous very quickly. That's going to change how he interacts with several people, especially those close to him. Arianna, we need to figure out where they go from here. I know we were talking about them possibly getting married again at some point, but this might cause an upset there. Arianna's never seen Curse truly angry. No one really has, not since Italy.
-What's going on with Emery? What are we doing with him?
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Post by Elle Callahan on Aug 9, 2011 17:25:34 GMT -5
Curse...I dunno how Arianna is going to react to an angry Curse yet, it depends on if he turns the full force of his anger onto her. She'll be upset too, she cares very much for Max even before she knew he was Curse's son. As long as he doesn't attack her, I think they'll grow stronger after this incident. This could be the catalyst that pushes them to marry. Life is short and one never knows when something could end it, change it etc.
On the other hand, this could send Arianna back to the muggle world. I don't think she'll leave again, not without hints from Curse that it won't work out. Ari wants what ever is between them to work out. He deserves happiness, they both do.And she knows that he is happy with her, and she with him...but this could shatter their fragile peace. It all depends. Where is Max being held? Is Curse going to physically retrieve him? Can Ari come along? She isn't going to stop Curse. What ever he needs her to do, she'll do it. Even if it means telling Amelia.
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Post by Ralin O'Faerlun on Aug 9, 2011 22:10:02 GMT -5
--I see your point about Daksmer, Curse. It's good to have different baddies with varying agendas, motives, and levels of 'bad'ness. --Ava and I talked about her joining the Watch there, we decided on something a little different (Ava correct me if I got this wrong) where Ava arrives after Ralin and Veronica, and she takes part in the battle outside the house. --I figured that Max would be held at Mosrael's crumbled castle, the ruins she turned into her base. But if there's a different place that would work better, let me know. --Do we want to have Max's kidnapping be short-lived, or take a while. Meaning, will he be rescued soon (I think this might be better) or will it take a while for him to be rescued. --I have a quick thought about Ari and Curse, if you don't mind my saying so. I've noticed that the characters, after Hogsmeade, have kind of started to go their own directions, each has a 'mission' that they've undertaken, so to speak. Like Theo protecting Jack, Reck and Conon watching Maebh, Curse and Ari trying to figure out who Mos is, Ralin trying to find Jack and keep all of his friends together as he feels they're all drifting apart, etc. This is fine! It's interesting to see where their agendas have turned to after the attack. The Black Watch seems to have become more of an auror group thing than a close-knit guard of friends. Food for thought: Maybe rescuing Max will bring them all back together, unite them in their effort to get him back. I guess I'm thinking in writer mode: if this were a book I was writing, I'd use the rescue as a catalyst for the characters to realize that they've drifted apart, and that they do need each other. It would strengthen their bond, unify them against Mosrael (since one of her weapons is to turn people against each other). Now I know we don't all want everything to turn out perfectly, and I know that our characters aren't friends anymore because of their different directions, but maybe, once there's plan to rescue Max, those who make the plan realize they need more for their force to get him out successfully. Different skills and strengths, and numbers too. So maybe they get back together for this rescue mission? lol Just an idea, but if we decide to go in a direction like this, I'd like Ralin to help out with enlisting people to help with the mission. ^^ Whew! That was a ramble, but I had a brainwave and wanted to share it with you. I know we all have plans for our characters, so I don't want to step on any toes. But here's something to think about as a possible part of the plot. I don't want it to be too cliche or anything either though. --And yes. Theo is brilliant. Majority rules.
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Post by Curse Kameren on Aug 10, 2011 21:26:16 GMT -5
Also: I'd like this plot to be very quick. Over by the beginning of the school year if we can, or if not by October. Curse wouldn't let them keep Max for long.
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